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A Spiritual Reflection – What Karen Armstrong’s Case For God Really Means To Me?

This post is irregular in two ways.  One, I am often – if not always – happy with what I publish here.  Technically speaking, there is nothing wrong with the book summary I wrote on a Sunday morning, 7am to be exact.  But the more I read that post, the more disconnected I feel.  I wish I have exposed more of me.  I guess a book summary is a book summary; a self-reflection is a self-reflection.  Holding back, I was and hence this post – an amendment, an addendum, a companion to that book summary.

Two, I seldom write about my spiritual journey.  Two reasons.  First, I do not consider myself as a spiritual role model.  The topic of God is not something I can articulate well.  My sister Lora, for example, can do it brilliantly.  Too bad, she has taken a break from writing.  I sincerely hope that she will write again soon.  Second, I prefer to embed God’s goodness in the things that I do, things that I write, and things that I create.  I think it is hard to make an impact to people’s lives by talking about God, with my limited articulation skill on this very topic.  It is much easier for me to take an indirect route instead.

Karen Armstrong’s “The Case For God” has much impact to my inner self in various ways.  New knowledge aside – which I have covered in my previous post – my personal spiritual journey suddenly makes so much sense. As my humble tribute to the book and to the gifted author, here are what I have interiorized, thus far.

  1. My First Ekstasis
  2. My Religious Upbringing
  3. Finding God
  4. Where Do I Go From Here?

My First Ekstasis

I suspect ‘that’ was my first ekstasis, now that I have read the book.  I do not remember much about my childhood.  But of the few scenes that I remember, this one in especially leaves a deep impressive.

When I was young, perhaps less than ten, I would sit somewhere in the living room and start to ponder, by asking a series of simple questions that lead from one to  another.  I would look at a nearby object and ask: where does the table come from?  A tree.  Where does a tree come from?  The Earth.  Where does Earth come from?  The Universe.  Where does the Universe come from?  Or I could ask: where do I come from?  My mother.  Where does my mother come from?  My mother’s mother.  Where does she come from?  So on and on, searching for that one answer beyond words.

Bear in mind that I was very young, with little knowledge in my head, I wasn’t that smart to figure things out (probably still don’t).  But I would expand my questions, till a point whereby everything broke down.  I remember vividly that my mind would go black, I would see the swirling stars.  I would feel as though I had left my body, lost in a spiritual world.  I would lie on the floor with eyes closed.  The more I did it, the longer I would stay in that state.  It was a strange feeling, a very good feeling.  One day, I was scared.  What if I could not come back?  And then I pondered lesser and lesser.  All of a sudden, I lost that ability, that out-of-the-body experience.  I miss those swirling stars a lot.  Till this day.

Could this be my first ekstasis?  To go beyond myself and transcend the normal experience?

My Religious Upbringing

I studied in a Catholic school, brought up in – I suppose – a Taoism (Daoism) family.  During one class, our teacher asked each of us which religion we belong to.  When it came to my turn, I had no clue how to answer that question.  In Chinese, what my parents did was called “Worshipping God”.  But “Worshiping God” is not a religion, is it?

So we had a family meeting.  And have decided that it was Taoism.  Next day, I had an answer to my teacher.  And to all whom asked.

As I grew up, there are more who tell me that Taoism equals to idol worshiping (which is bad) than those like Karen Armstrong who thinks that the religion does have something we can learn from.  And probably due to the influence I had in school, one day I asked my parents a deeper question on what Taoism is?  Where is the Taoism ‘scripture’?

Those questions shocked my mother a bit.  Or it could be a great deal as I often find it hard to fully measure her emotional intensity until it erupts.  As my parent attempted to explain, I gathered that different deities are being worshipped upon.  Each comes with a legend of its own.  The Chinese are familiar with the associated folk stories.  When I insisted on the ‘scripture’, my father started to recite passages written by the ancient Chinese.  For example, there is one passage that is structured in words of three, full of morale codes, how the Universe was created, the philosophy of mankind, and etc.  I asked my father if there was a book somewhere in the house and he said none.  His parents recited these passages to him when he was young and he – like all those before him I suppose – learned the passages verbally.

Fascinated with Chinese literature I was, I did not go far with the study of the myths of the Chinese legends.  Nor did I go far with the study of those passages, which I still think they are beautiful to recite.  After I have read “The Case For God”, something struck me.  Folk Taoism it may be, this ancient religion contains the mythos (myths), morale codes and stories to ponder upon, and a ritual that my parents – together with many Chinese – regularly do.  The religion is still a living one, helps to construct meaning in face of our hardship.  And liberating as it sounds, there is nothing wrong with the religion I was brought up with – I realized.

Finding God – Part I

Till today, I am still proud that as a then-non-believer, I could score an A for Religious Studies prior to moving to UK for my A-level study.  Many of my classmates in Hong Kong struggled.  But to me, Religious Studies was one of the most enjoyable subject.  Examination questions often came in the form of: this and this happened as written in the Bible, what does that mean?  What are the implications?  If it is a question that worth a score of 20, you need at least 20 points based on your interpretation that in turn, based the various quotations from the Bible.  For me, I would provide not 20, but 40 points.  Because I knew even if I missed half of the number of points as required by the question, I would still score full mark.

That worked of course.  But how did I find that many interpretations to start with?  The good news is that Bible is a highly structured highly cross-referenced set of materials.  The four Gospels tells a similar set of stories in slightly different perspectives.  And within the Gospels as well as other texts in the Bible, it is easy to find linkages to expand your interpretation.  No doubt I had to get some basic concepts right (like what is the Trinity).  But I had no problem in interpreting the Bible as far as the examination is concerned.

My journey to find God has been a bumpy one.  Just as Karen Armstrong mentioned, I too have gone through the stage whereby I used science to find God and to find God in science.  What is God?  Where is He?  Surely God has to be observable.  Or are we created by aliens instead?  And I have also gone through the stage whereby I read the Bible literally and started to have found more and more things that did not make sense.

Throughout the years of frustration, I have finally decided that a free thinker was probably best to describe who I was.  Yes, there must be a God somewhere because in no way we could explain nature’s design if otherwise.  But I did not go further than that.

Finding God – Part II

Looking back – especially after reading the book – I think it is the rituals and the myths that brought me [back] to Catholicism.

Many times, a friend would approach me and ask what he or she should do to convert his or her partners into the same faith.  I wish there was an easy answer.  But here is my brief story.

Cynthia has never put pressure on me to be a Catholic like her.  When we first started as a couple, I often accompanied her to Churches and sat in through the Mass.  It didn’t bother me to the least.  I often find Churches and Cathedrals a serene place to be at.  Besides, it never failed to amaze me how persistence Cynthia wanted to attend a Mass, regardless of the weather, or even the fact that we were in a foreign city.  Each time I attended the Mass, I observed the ritual.  The more I read about what is behind each ritual, the more meaningful the Mass is to me.  Soon, I wanted to participate in the process, to have that moment of divinity.  It was no swirling stars for sure.  But of the many moments I experience in the Mass, that moment of offering a piece of me and to take in a piece God – as my godmother once told me – is still the defining moment every time I receive the Communion (after I have baptized).  We humans need the physical touch in order to communicate feeling and love.  Hence we hug, we hold hands, we kiss, and etc.  And that piece of God, in the form of a host received during our Communion, is as physical as it can get.

But that host is just …

OK, I have tossed science out of the way long time ago.  A little bit of faith – as a matter of commitment and practical living according to Karen Armstrong – is all I need.

I went through an accelerated baptism course, delivered inside a priest’s office with he and I and Cynthia as my support.  When the priest asked me if I believe in the garden of Eden, that God took a rib from Adam and created Eve, in less than a heartbeat I replied, “Yes, I believe.”  I took a leap of faith, literally.

The priest laughed and told me that, “No, it is a story, a myth.”  In fact, many times, when we studied the scripture in detail, he would say, “This is a mystery”.  How can God work in such a mysterious way?  Back then, I have accepted this mystery mentality.  A mentality that apparently did not sit well with some of my Protestant friends.  We could have an open dialog one day, ended the night with some open questions.  And the next day, my friends – with their network of Protestant’s support – would return with a long list of answers, the counter-arguments.  It was as though the scripture has answers for everything.  Even on the question why Catholicism is not part of Christianity.

I am not an articulated theologist.  And I often retreat from these long list of canned Q & A and fall back onto what I am comfortable with – a standardized Mass from any given Catholic Church all over the world that has the very same prayers, the very same scriptural readings, on any particular day; that we may not have answers to everything in life; and there are more than one way to interpret the scripture, as Karen Armstrong says.

Later, as I read “The Case For God”, I have come to the realization that God is unknowable.  But that doesn’t stop us from our ritual and meditation.  And to that extend, the mysteries and the standardized Mass works for me.  The eventful (and standardized) Catholic calendar too works for me.

Where Do I Go From Here?

I agree with Karen Armstrong.  We cannot find God using science.  Nor any religion today has a final say.  Personally, I have deep respect to other religions.  And I have read into some of them too (for it is hard to accept and respect other religions if you don’t know what they are).  I can also understand where atheists or free thinkers come from.  Maybe the gap between the not so devoutly faithful and the free thinkers is not really as much as we think it is.  As for my personal development, I shall take Karen Armstrong’s advise that religion should be a constant practice, an ability that is built over time.  One day, the intensity of those swirling stars may return.  Perhaps not in the exact form.  But ekstasis in experiencing God, I hope, no less.

12 replies on “A Spiritual Reflection – What Karen Armstrong’s Case For God Really Means To Me?”

Like you said, religion is difficult to articulate. Especially in a country where we are always reminded to be mindful and respect each other’s religion, I seldom see people talk very openly about it. As in a formal discussion. Between friends of different religions, it is seldom a common topic that is brought up. At least not in my circle of friends.

To me, religion has to be personal. To me, as long as it gives a person that sense of inner peace or the desired effect, that will suffice. It’s great that you’ve shared your personal experiences here.

Darkspore – Yes, for me, religion is difficult to articulate. But for some, they are gifted to do so. Interestingly, since my younger days, I have managed to meet people who are keen to talk about religion. Like my Malaysian friends back in UK who talked about Islam in depth. I often sat through their prayers in their rooms and “break fast” with them. A very fun experience. I have also talked with the Arabs who were very keen to talk about Allah. Of course the Protestants who often very keen to spread the Gospels. Indians on Hinduism, their epic stories and so on.

Maybe one of my interests in life is religion.

Religion has evolved into becoming personal. The book has highlighted that we have gone through the stage of reasoning and enlightenment and we have started not to always think about the scientific truth but to feel God with our hearts.

Of course, that poses the challenge of what is your personal God? Do you personify God that border on idolatry? There is no easy answers.

Bro.. u used to see swirling stars?!? That explains a lot.. LOL 😀

Me? My first encounter with God occurred when i was 7 – 8 years old. Mum sent me out to buy some things from a neighborhood shop next to a chapel where i heard music, clapping and singing. Being Kay-po, i had a small peek when Sister Ruth noticed and invited me in. Right there and then, i attended my first Sunday school. I remembered having alot of fun, followed by alot of fear when it was time to go home and suddenly realised that i had disappeared for 2 whole hours.

“WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!? DON’T YOU KNOW HOW WORRIED I WAS?!?my mum screamed.
“Oh dear Father God, please save me….” I silently prayed and shivered in my heart as i explained, expecting that dreaded cane to come swinging VERY soon. But miraculously, God answered my prayer. Mum not only calmed down and let me off. She even told me to continue if i wished. Mum went back to the kitchen and i was dumbfounded for afew seconds. That’s when i realised.. “Whoa… GOD IS REAL and He just saved my butt!” 😀

I agree with Darkspore that religion is personal indeed. Though to be precise, it is more a personal ‘relationship’ with God, not ‘practice’ as Karen Armstrong puts it. There is a big difference. 🙂

~ just sharing my experience 🙂

Benny – Thanks for sharing your experience. It means a lot to me to hear what other got to say too on this very same topic.

I am pretty sure I can’t do justice here with just merely a few thousands words when Karen Armstrong takes the entire 300+ pages to state her case. In short, ‘practice’ refers to the constant activity you do for your religion. Be it as prayers, services, religion gathering, group studies, small prayers, and so on. The idea is that religion, much like art or music, is beyond words. No one can explain why a piece of classical music conveys certain feelings. It is beyond words but yet, gives you the sense of “ecstasy”. I remember when I played in an orchestra, when everyone was playing together, that feeling was indescribable. And we can’t get there unless we practice, and sharpen our senses. Of course some are more gifted than others and they are able to be connected to God instantly. But for others, it could well be a daily practice (again, like daily prayer and etc.). Think about Yoga – which is also mentioned in the book. It is a constant practice and it is spiritual in its own way.

Like my reply to Darkspore, personal relationship with God can be based on emotion. Some actually project their own thoughts of how God should be into this personal God. Something to think about.

Brother… after reading your replies to all of us… now it’s MY TURN to see swirling stars… LOL. 😀

God Bless. 🙂

I do agree that practice at the start can help guide us to do the right things. But if as time goes and we just pray as a regular routine or just attend church because it’s Sunday, somehow the true meaning of the practice has lost. I haven’t read the book and I am not intended to comment on her perspective. But just as a personal sharing. I believe the ultimate goal of praying is to share your joy with God or ask God to share your burden. This is my personal conversation with God and this is my own personal relationship with God. 🙂

However, I believe it does not necessarily mean that when you have the personal relationship with God, everything is based on emotion only and the God you are experiencing is just the projection of your thoughts on God. I think this can be dangerous and we will lose our anchor when things are down. Therefore, I suppose we always need to refer to God’s words in the Bible so that we can be assured of His promise for us and place our trust in Him at all times. 🙂

Lora – Yes for the first paragraph, yes for the second paragraph also. If I may further add a few points for discussion, the meaning of “practice” – in this context – includes the dialogue with God as well including meditation and prayers. That is to say, we are not looking at “practice” as merely “be there”.

Second point to add is that as far as Christianity is concerned, you are right in saying that we should always refer to the scripture – The Bible. But in this early day of human history (compare that to the timeline of the dinosaurs!), no religion can have a final say. And when it comes down to the common denominator, it could just be as simple as what the Greek refers as “Ekstasis” – an transcending experience when practicing religion.

Thanks Big Brother for such a deep sharing. Wow~! Haven’t thought that you could encounter the spiritual world with swirling stars in the past. Just know that you can engage very deep in your thought even from very young. 🙂

Haha… though I still found it unbelievable every time you told me that I can articulate the topic of God well. 😛 Hmmm… Let me consider again whether this is truly the gift from God. May be this is God’s reminder from you that I shouldn’t ignore over and over again. 😛 Thanks for the encouragement. Hey, but your post did touch on one area that I can write very long… any word limit for your comment field? haha..

Hey, I also scored A in my Religious Studies leh~! Give me FIVE! haha… 😀

To me, God is not exactly a religion. He is actually one of my dearest friends full of love. He would come to me and comfort me, even when I was weeping in the dark slightly under my pillow. His expression of love is sometimes too amazing to comprehend. It is just… supernatural…

I recalled when I was in the darkest moment in my life where I experienced the first-and-only breakup after the 9-yr relationship, God appeared in my life a lot of times. One day, I felt very bad emotionally. Worst of all, I still needed to get stuck in the university library studying for my part-time Law degree. I just felt exceptionally… lonely… You know what God did for me? I first got a long-distance call from one friend haven’t called me for at least a year just asking me how was I. Then I got another email also from a friend living in another country who also seldom get in touch. Of course, I also got calls from my friends around. God just sent different messages to me that YOU ARE NOT ALONE! I felt so touched and I just cried in the library in gratitude. I know this is the God that is always with me.

So, after reading your previous blog on the book (though I can’t understand most of the things…hehe…), the only thing come to my mind is… why people need to analyse God as a subject? with science? with theories? He is just a friend, though He is the creator and the highest! Will I analyse my friend or my brother as a topic?? No. I don’t think so. So, I am not sure whether all the human’s effort on doing this is worthwhile. Just give a try to let the great master as well as friend to walk with you and help you before you talk or think or analyse too much. You can tell from your experience whether you like this friend or not… from your heart. This may be as simple as how a primary one student make friends in school. 🙂

When I am at different stages of life, I can experience God in different ways. I am not sure whether I can quote all my experience here. (May be I should start my blog on this again… haha) But to respond more on people using Science to explain God’s existence, I am really not sure how far they can do… Put it very frankly, I guess according to our today’s advancement in science, we may still need more than a million years to reach the stage of explaining how are the things in our world work, be it our body, the virus, the weather, the nature… not to mention the attempt of explaining HOW these things are created…

May be I am in no position to say that when I am not a scientist. But being just a pregnant woman now, I clearly feel the miracle by God. The more I read about how the new life comes inside my body, the more I am amazed at the complicated processes involved. When we think we are achieving a lot at work, we are just so naive to realize that every chemical and every organ inside our body are achieving MUCH MORE in every second. The way that the hormone changes to coordinate different events to happen at the right time for the good health of this new life is out of our imagination. Though the book tells us a lot about the biology inside our body nowadays, I wonder how much more we just can’t see by the best world’s microscope and can’t comprehend with our human’s mind. Therefore, during this pregnancy, I truly hope that no one scientist in the world is trying to create another human being. It’s just too impossible to do the algorithm ALL right. With just one component of the chemical unknown to human, human will create a monster instead…. how horrible!

May be I am a person who is easier to get contented. I just want to do my part as a simple human to walk happily with the accompany and help of God. 🙂 Trying to be ABOVE God to create His creation or to analyse God or to prove God’s existence… or even to announce God’s ‘death'(?!)… hmmm… to me at least, are we just too ambitious…?…. or naive to say that? Would it be just like an ant trying to analyse human being? Sometimes, I also wonder whether the ants will think that they have a tsunami when I just pouring water over them to get them away without killing them literally… hahaha… Just a thought to share. 🙂

Lora – When I first read your comment, I was so glad that my website didn’t crash when you posted your comment. Next time, please remember to copy-and-paste to somewhere first … ha ha ha.

You also got an A for Religious Studies?! Wow. HIGH FIVE! How did you get an A? A different approach from mine?

Yes, you really should write again. And seems like that is the one topic that you enjoy write again and again.

To answer your question on why do people want to analyse what God is, we have to recognize that religion has evolved over time. In fact, the entire book makes the case based on that.

In the beginning, religion was mostly myths and rituals with stories verbally passed from one generation to another. In fact, that was how the Old Testament was born. And in the beginning, there were different versions of the scripture if you are looking at Judaism and Christianity. As for Islam, it was mostly politically driven as it was really hard to survive in the Arab region due to lack of resource.

And of course, when the Greek develops philosophy and started to think deep, we reasoned. Back then, countries were guided by religion and in as such, biblical scriptures were regarded as the absolute truth, providing answers to everything around us.

Then came science. Initially, when the scientists made discoveries, they also bind them back to religion. But as more and more discoveries were made, many looked into the Bible and started to validate if it was indeed the absolute truth. The religious authority back then fought back with doctrines and so on. In the end, our religion has gotten more and more rigid.

Then came the age of enlightenment when people started to feel God in their hearts, using emotions.

The first wave of atheists, from what I recall, came from the Jews who were displayed from their homeland (I think they ended up in Portugal because Spain forced them to convert to Christianity). Without proper rituals or practices they were used to do, religion loses its meaning. And fast forward to where we are today, we have many who do not want anything to do with religion, we have the fundamentalists who declare everyone who opposes them as enemies, and we have the traditional religions that may be too rigid in the way we view religion.

Anyway, such a heavy topic! I like what you said about the creation of life. Whenever I look at even the smallest thing in nature, it is hard not to believe that there is a God somewhere.

haha… Actually I did copy what I wrote before I clicked ‘Submit’… 😛

Oh… how I got an ‘A’?? hmmm… I guess hard work + interest. 🙂

Thanks for the d-e-t-a-i-l-e-d explanation. haha… Yes, this is my big brother. So much research and information on one topic. 😀

To me, I can understand the evolution of religion in human’s history. But to me, God is spiritual and has nothing to do with how human view Him. Sometimes we may have associated religion with too much human factors or issues. Still, I believe our own personal experience with God is the most important.

If a non-believer wants to know more about God, I would just gladly share my relationship with Him and what He has done for all of us. Going through all the history and analysis created by human somehow complicates the issue. I am certainly not interested in how people fight among themselves as the religion evolves. Personally, I feel sometimes it is how the human intreprete God’s word turns people away from God. 🙂

Anyway, as said, I am just a simple girl. May be too simple to some. But I guess simplicity is good to certain extent. At least I can enjoy so much love from God and have my happy life. hehe 😛

Lora – I like your simple approach. It is true. It is a personal experience that counts. Same for me too.

Just that if one wishes to influence many, in the topic of religion, one should have an understanding how divided people’s views are and why.

There are many things that turn people away from God I think. But that is a whole new deeper topic … ha ha ha.

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